Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. If I had to guess what the real changes were, it would be the newer ones have the locking tabs AND are brighter then the older numbers. Mar 28, 2013. That is the benefit of the $900 unit is that it will have a higher output of the alternator AND the original look of the generator. You can also find one in the Summit catalog. Having a Gener-Nator attached to your engine is like the cherry on the sundae or a bow on a present, because it's the perfect way to blend the classic look with new age capabilities. When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. GENER-NATOR, an alternator built inside the original generator case (Delco, FoMoCo, Autolite, Model A), 6, 8 and 12-volt, positive or negative ground, 50-60 amps. 57 230 with fast hitch Fine for a Mustang, but no appropiriate for a Lotus. The Gener-Nator has been one of the best upgrades that I have made to my '50 Series 61 with the OEM 6v electrical system. is expressly forbidden. Plus, they have the electronics built into the bulb now. Call 800.979.0122, 7am-10pm, everyday. Estimated to ship direct from manufacturer on 07/13/23, pending manufacturer availability. I just make different brackets. October 26, 2013 in Technical IH Talk. is available with different capabilities: 6 Volts - 50 AMPS, 12 VOLTS - 60 AMPS and 24 VOLTS - 40 AMPS. Anyone put one of these on? I am going from a 12v alternator to a 12v generator for my M, yes i have thought it through and yes i have heard all the arguments for an alternator vs a generator, but i want it to look stock. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -. Dave Richards D Deleted member 3577 Guest Guest Offline Apr 8, 2006 ( 3 ), Estimated Ship Date: An alternator will also spin happily at higher revs than agenerator. Hello, I'm Don Allen. Comes with pulley for 3/8 inch belt. I wasn't saying they stuff the whole off the shelf alternator case inside the generator. If you look at the web sites pictures you will clearly see they have a the standard pulley fan on the front which means they are using the original blow through axial flow air cooling concept the original generators use. Alternators and Generators - 6 Voltage Compatibility - Summit Racing Generator systems are difficult to troubleshoot if you don't have a good understanding of electrical systems. They combine the looks of a generator with the output and reliability of an alternator. Component or components can be returned to Speedway Motors as long as the product is still under warranty. He was wondering if there was an alternator built to resemble the generator (somewhat similar) or a . I believe it comes in a couple of amp ratings. If you like traditional looks and reliable, modern performance, youll love this cool Flathead 1-wire alternator. The alternator is a better choice for a tractor that is started and stopped frequently because it will recharge the batteries faster (higher output from an alternator). The downside isthey're out of stock at the moment. Steve, aka Jalapeno on trifive is a great guy. Alternator that Looks Like Generator : Electrical / Instruments by Nov 29, 2017. of 99, Alternator, PowerGEN, Internal Regulator, 90 Amp, 12 V, Black Powdercoated, Each, 4.88 out of 5 stars Other pulleys options are available upon request. Drawback is since its a restoration I want the alternator to be in a stock looking generator housing. Powermaster PowerGEN 1949-53 Flathead Ford 1-Wire Alternators, 12-Volt Thus the Alternator - P15-D24 Forum - P15-D24.com and Pilot-house.com first off, the radio is not 220 watts unless it is full volume. But you really like the look of a stock generator? The Powermaster 39-48 flatty Ford gen-alts don't flow as good though because they don't have large enough holes in the case. Thanks, Dan, "When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." CLICK HERE. 4.61 out of 5 stars If you insist on a generator, sometimes a "police", "taxi", "heavy duty" etc. The school buss's were our biggest problem. It maintains a steady and constant volt level so you don't get the dreaded dim headlights at idle as you do with conventional Generators. If anyone anyone has experience with these, I would love to hear from you. They combine the looks of a generator with the output and reliability of an alternator. Do they work good? Unlike its steel-bodied contemporaries, the fiberglass Elan offered owners additional electrical challenges because every ground would need to run to the frame, rather than to the body. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Come join the discussion about restoration, engine swaps, reviews, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I do not recognise 1/2 those numbers, I think they have been superceded by newer numbers. The ability to generate text, images, sounds and code with personalized capabilities and enormous efficiency will transform the customer . ( 1 ), Alternator, PowerGEN, 12 V, 90 amps, Polished, V-belt Pulley, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Each, Estimated Ship Date: Ships In a Few Days. Terms of Use | Privacy and Security | Site Accessibility My 1955 Farmall 400 Mike, They do! ( 2 ), Alternator, PowerGEN, Internal Regulator, 60 Amp, 6 V Positive Ground, Black Powdercoated, Each, 5.0 out of 5 stars GenerNator high amp classic car alternator built inside generator On a restoration, a generator that's in good condition will work just as good as an alternator conversion. I can only speak to the "Gener-Nator" built by Don Allen in Oregon in regards to application in a Cadillac. that 12v alternator that looks like a generator conversion kit is pricey. Wow! 6 volt alternators - Positive Ground - Quality Power So it's a stock generator case that has been gutted and had specially fitted alternator stator, rotor and related parts put inside it but it's not a alternator that was machined down and stuffed inside a generator case. ( 13 ), Alternator, PowerGEN, Internal Regulator, 90 Amp, 12 V, Black Powdercoated, 2.6 in. I purchased the GenerNator for my '41 from Don Allen about 3 years ago. Replace your stock or worn out old generator with a Powermaster PowerGEN Alternator which looks like a vintage-style generator on the outside but has the modern high-tech guts on the inside to retain classic style under the hood. the turn signals and brake lights will only pull power when on. Enjoy banner ad-free browsing with Chevy Tri Five Forum Plus. If he springs for this I'll definetely get pics and feedback. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Powermaster-82051-2-PowerGEN-Early-GM-Alternator-12-Volt-Black,99779.html?sku=255820512&utm_medium=CSEGoogle&utm_source=CSE&utm_campaign=CSEGOOGLE&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsMuPwt-j7QIVGm6GCh2ENw_kEAQYAiABEgIDzPD_BwE, Re: Alternator That Looks Like a Generator. Any help out there? Contact Us - the 12v generator on our B-275 has never given us any trouble at all, I am fine with it. Evidently the main lead comming out of the alternator was to be connected to wires A and D, back feeding the battery through the existing wireing, however there was caution that the wireing should be abil to conduct 40 amps. The Components of an Alternator - HowStuffWorks Advertising - I would love to get a hold of one of these and take it apart to see exactly what is inside. Get that nostalgic look of a generator and the reliable charging power of an alternator all in one These alternators are designed to fit where the original generator was mounted. The belt that runs the fan should not be used to run the generator. I installed one called a Genernator. The decision to develop the Not many tractor collectors are willing to shell out $900 which in most cases is not necessary. Altenator that looks like a generator - Red Power Magazine The platform looks a lot like Twitter, with a feed of largely text-based posts although users can also post . Looking to rebuild or repair a starter alternator or generator for an antique vehicle. A tractor's original generator will do the job just fine if maintained correctly and there is really no benefit to swapping to a negative ground system anyway which is only necessary for an alternator swap. The real downside to a generator is that their power output is extremely proportional to the engine speed- IE if you go to a cruise night, and are idling up and down the strip with your headlights and radio on, you may wind up with a dead battery. PowerGENs offer one-wire operation, producing75 amps, with a whopping 60 amps at idle and is only 1/4'' larger in diameter than a stock generator. When the newer cars, trucks, tractors needed more current output the generators got to be huge in physical size. This alternator has a 1-wire regulator so your only connection is a battery cable on the rear of the alternator to the vehicle's battery post. Alternator that looks like a Generator | Chevy Tri Five Forum BTW other web sites make reference to them and the starting price is around $900! Add to Cart-11%. The LED bulbs now are pretty bright, probably more so then the filament bulbs, though they run much cooler and draw less amps. Yes I have used the Powermaster alternator too. Alternator that looks like a Generator - Help. My custom built GenerNator is rated at 50amps of 6v power for my application. their site doesnt show the regutted genny, any ballpark on price and models it would fit? Did not know you could get it in that style, looks like my generator :tu. I would really like to convert my 56 Fairlane to a 12 Volt Neg ground alterator. Time will tell. Holy cow! They have a black finish just like the original generator. Only thing I will mention is that it's not an exact copy, and you will see the Powermaster logo on it with it installed in most cars, although it is formed into the case and if a guy was being picky he could smooth it over with filler and repaint. I never had a single problem with the generator on my old B100 IH BD240, or my 59 Desoto V8-361. Leads A and D look to be 14 gage at best, hence the 8 gage wire direct from the alternator to the hot lead on the solonid. Thanks. That is a sure recipe for failure in a very short time. If I posted the link correctly, it shows a generator that has the innards of a alternator. I have seen a few mechanics replace generators and regulators unnecessarily because they don't fully understand how the system works and eventually the mechanic just gets fed up and installs an alternator because it is a "unitized" part that either works or it doesn't. The problem with doing this is, you have to change just about every component (or install drop down resistors), and bulbs. Chit Chat Area, Anything on your mind goes here. I do not think you will have a problem with the generator. Archive - But that necessitated a change to 12v negative ground which was fine with me. The regulator distributes the power the alternator creates, and it controls the output of power to the battery. I've googled this and found nothing. Use your Summit Racing SpeedCard, and get 10% back. Other than that, a properly maintained generator is ok. Just make sure to replace the brushes BEFORE they wear out, and to keep oil in the cups. I know a handful of other people in the Aberdeen SD and Jamestown ND area that are using Powermasters on collector cars with good luck. ~ 10 years ago, I met a guy @ SEMA that made "genernators". Nevermind. It still looks like a 10si but the mounting points are on each end instead of one big one in the middle. That is something to think about if you really drive your cars. The Gener-Nator Regardless thoughthose units sound way overpriced for what you get. By ( 2 ), Alternator, PowerGEN, Generator Case, 90 amps, 12 V, V-Belt Pulley, Black Powdercoated, Internal Regulator, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth, Studebaker, Each, Alternator, PowerGEN, 90 Amp, V-Belt, Black Powdercoated, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Each, 4.0 out of 5 stars The rectifier bridge converts the power, while the brushes and slip rings help conduct . Either buy a 6-volt alternator, or run your car at 30-MPH all the time. Alternator that looks like a Generator - Help - Page 2 - Ford Truck With the right machining rework of the generator case and the use of some properly designed spacers or even a high temp epoxy solidly mounting a mini alternator stator inside an old generator case would be easy. I do not recognise 1/2 those numbers, I think they have been superceded by newer numbers. Please register or login to enable Dark Mode. All rights reserved. There are quite a few guys that do turn down a radial-cooled (inside to outside) mini-alt case/stator and stuff it inside an axial-cooled (straight through) case and TRY to get it to work on their vintage engines. I dont think I would really see a difference with a generator putting out 5 or 10 amps more. #1 Has anyone used this product? Ford Model A Generator Conversion to an Alternator - Quality Power From macs they have a 30 amp one for 56-59 so I assume the 30 amp one is the standard one. I would put quick disconnects/marine terminals so if you use a battery tender, it does not mess up something in the car/generator. Never miss a sale on new parts, tools, and more! Threads is a new app from the parent company of Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. For vehicles that have the P/S units driven off the rear of the OE generator, you would have to install a separate P/S pump. Right now he's got about $250 into the light conversion that won't work because of the generator not putting out enuff. $40 for the alternator, core price included. Re: 12 volt alternator that looks like generator in reply to diggerodell, 10-05-2008 21:51:50 I might just point out that the 800 series deisels use a 12V generator. Part Number: PWM-82006 4.5 out of 5 stars Gener-Nator 2023 JEGS High Performance. like yours and the one with the chrome polished case? I have one in both my '56's Max. Or it can add a traditional look to any hot rod or street rod. This outfit advertises in Hemming Motor News. its externally regulated and so on. Copyright It is a 10si with a different case. Powermaster PowerGEN Alternators are the answer if you want the look of an original generator, but the reliability and power of a modern alternator. My generator equipped tractors have required very little service to the electrical systems in their 40+ years of service, about the same as my alternator equipped vehicles. IF this guy did his homework when he was re-engineering the guts, the cooling problem can be eliminated. I asked my relative who I was orignally told and they said I misunderstood. Contact Steve @ Authentic Automotive. You can also juggle the pulley sizes (smaller diameter) to speed it up a bit so it begins .